January 2, 2009 by Martini Lahoud
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israel, palestine, international affairs, media, politics, maps

SOURCE: London Times, 5 May 2006, titled, Truth in Mapping
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99

Martini Lahoud 183 days ago
There are some factual inaccuracies in these maps.
For example, in 1917, the land of Palestine included the land now belonging to Jordan. In 1922, 75% of Palestine was taken away and Transjordan was created. That loss is far greater than any land now under Israeli jurisdiction.
Also, the 2006 map states that Gaza was still occupied by Israel. All Israeli troops were withdrawn in 2005, so technically Gaza was not occupied. Also, I believe there are no Israeli troops in the West Bank.
RobW 150 days ago
You are incorrect. Israel may have removed its racist settlements in 2006, but it remains in control of the borders, coasts, airspace, fuel, food, and resources of the territory; it is the occupying power by any measure of international law. To control 100% of the prison, you only need to man the walls and control the food supply.
As for the map, you are also wrong, but less so. True, the administrative entity known as Palestine by the British did include land east of the Jordan river. This area was renamed in 1921 (not 1922), and roughly corresponds today's Kingdom of Jordan. While at first blush this may seem like an inaccuracy in the map, it is important to note that this map speaks to "land in dispute" and not the arbitrary administrative zones of the British empire. Jordan is not in dispute, and thus does not appear on the map, which was first published by The London Times.
You post suggests the lurid Zionist argument that "Jordan is Palestine," which is accepted by no one on the planet but the Zionists themselves, and not all of them for that matter.
Where is your profile, by the way?
Martini Lahoud 150 days ago
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"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.
"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online
Martini Lahoud 183 days ago